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, that is kind of what the nra has been demanding remember the nra came out after newtown demanding that there must be armed officers in schools. president obama calmly today said, yeah, sure. if schools want to have more armed officers in school, sure, they can do that. we'll just have to do a whole bunch of other things, too. but your idea? sure, that's something we can do. in response, the nra is telling its members that they will stand and fight. that this will be the war of the century. whew, we got what we wanted. >> it took joe biden less than 29 months to meet with 229 groups in the process of coming up with this menu of options from which president obama assembled this plan today. the speed of this effort continues to out pace its own expectations. the president said he wanted expectations by the end of this month. it's not the end of the month yet. vice president biden initially said you won't get them at the end of the month. you're going to get them early, you're going to get them on the 15th. he then turned his recommendations in early. and now, today, the 16th, legisla
to deter gun violence in our country. among the vice president's guests today were the nra. how that went and how it stands up to ezra's thesis is coming up. chronic osteoarthritis pain. imagine living your life with less chronic low back pain. imagine you with less pain. cymbalta can help. cymbalta is fda-approved to manage chronic musculoskeletal pain. one non-narcotic pill a day, every day, can help reduce this pain. tell your doctor right away if your mood worsens, you have unusual changes in mood or behavior or thoughts of suicide. antidepressants can increase these in children, teens, and young adults. cymbalta is not for children under 18. people taking maois, linezolid or thioridazine or with uncontrolled glaucoma should not take cymbalta. taking it with nsaid pain relievers, aspirin or blood thinners may increase bleeding risk. severe liver problems, some fatal, were reported. signs include abdominal pain and yellowing skin or eyes. tell your doctor about all your medicines, including those for migraine and while on cymbalta, call right away if you have high fever, confusion and
that we can act cooperatively. >> the nra's come out with a statement today in which they say a number of things. but they also say that only honest law abiding gunowners will be affected if we, quote, if anyone is attacking firearms and ignoring children. that's not the solution to the crisis we face. of course their position has always been this. clearly that is going to be a very tough battle for the president. and it will rely on many democrats who are in red states and who have felt the full force of the pulleying nra stand up and be counted. are they going to do that? >> i think that the issue remains a very open one in the minds of many of my colleagues because they are hearing from their constituents that we really need to do something about gun violence. in fact, i heard that said to me personally again and again and again in the days that i was in newtown after this horrific tragedy, the days and the weeks that i spent huge amounts of time there. people in newtown, people in connecticut and across the country are saying we have to do something about gun violence. and let's re
the national director of the n.r.a.'s school shield program and visit the n.r.a. state of the art shooting range in fairfax, virginia, we'll meet a world champion shooter and clear up myths and misconceptions about guns that a lot of people don't know about them and you'll hear from our studio audience, a former law enforcement official, gun rights activists who know firsthand why so many americans have chosen to arm themselves in order to protect their families. first, let's recap what was proposed earlier this we thiek. in addition, the president outlined legislative proposals and calling for the passage of a universal background check, something that critics say could lead to a gun ordinance data base and wants the assault weapons ban reinstated, an a ten round limit on magazines, and restrictions on bullets that can be possessed and manufactured and discussed a new gun trafficking law that penalizes those who help criminals obtain firearms, on wednesday, the americans called on americans to pressure their ehe lekted representatives in supporting these measures. let's take a look. >> ge
." >>> the number of american husband holds with guns is on the decline but the nra's power is growing. it is growing even after newtown. breaking news, one american has been killed in the algeria hostage situation. we'll tell you what we know about that man and the other americans we are aware of tonight. let's get straight to jill dougherty at the state department. first, jill, what can you tell us about the american who died? >> there are not a lot of details. we can confirm according to a senior u.s. official that one american is dead. family has been notified that this person has died. but other than that, where they died, how they died, and maybe when they died, is not clear. after all, this began three days ago. and then the operation has been ongoing for two days. so not clear. a lot of those details. i can tell you that this afternoon, before this news broke, secretary of state hillary clinton did express condolences to the families of those people, people from several countries, who died in this terrorist act. and yet at this point we don't know many details at all of how man
. it was the first white house meeting for the nra in nearly two decades yesterday and this morning its president told matt lauer he was not pleased about how it went. >> we have a profound disagreement with this administration. first of all on what would make a difference. we don't think a ban on so-called assault weapons which hasn't worked in the past will work this time. >> one of the major pieces the vice president appears to be focused on is not the assault weapons ban but background checks. >> there's a surprising -- so far, a surprising recurrence of suggestions that we have universal background checks. not just close the gun show loophole but total universal background checks, including private sales. >> and the "washington post" reports today the white house is at least considering an nra proposal to fund police in schools, that's something now being pushed by democratic senator barbara boxer. i want to bring in "washington post" columnist ruth marcus and ryan grim. good to see you both. >> good morning. >> the nra said and i'm quoting here, we were disappointed with how little this mee
on the table. the vice president's task force gets down to business bringing in the nra for the meeting. >>> responding to the backlash. brent musburger's bosses apologizing for his on air comments about the football star's beauty queen girlfriend. >>> balloon ride from hell. a camera is rolling as a wedding party's sky high tour takes a terrifying turn. they crashed. on their wedding day. good morning, welcome to "early start." happy to have you with us. >> it is january 9th, 5:00 a.m. in the east. and at the white house today, the national rifle association face to face on guns and gun control. actually that's tomorrow.nra confirming it will meet with vice president and its gun violence project tomorrow. but they don't sound excited about it. putting out a statement that reads we're sending a rep to hear what they have to say. listen to the response from the president's spokesman. >> we look forward to hearing from a variety of organizations and civic groups and others who have insights into this problem. >> if you're here to listen to them, they're here to listen to you. >> tprocess
checks. >> it is not a serious solution for reducing crime. >> the nra is clearly, dramatically out of step. >> lapierre dismissed background checks. >> background checks will never be universal. >> you will never get criminals to go through universal background checks. >> because criminals will never submit to them. >> they will not go to purchase the guns because there will be a background check. >> you missed the point completely. and i think it is basic. >> senator, i think you -- >> let there be order. >> i think you're missing it. >> let there be more. >> if chairman patrick leahy pressed lapierre. >> if you're a dealer, that is already the law. >> please, mr. lapierre, i'm not trying to play games here, but if you could just answer the question. >> rights demand responsibility. law abiding gun owners will not accept blame. >> americans are looking to us for solutions and for action. >> this time must be different. >> the senate judiciary committee today held the first senate hearing on gun and ammunition control, in the aftermath of the massacre of 20 first graders and six wo
>>> good morning, i'm thomas roberts. the nra taking off the safety following the meeting at the white house blasting vice president joe biden and the gun task force. >> we have a profound disagreement with this administration, first of all on what would make a difference. i don't think there's in lack of concern about dealing with the problem. i think there's a very different view as to what the problem is and how to solve it. vice president biden who is expected to put out proposals early next week will wrap up several meetings with a sit-down with reps from the video gaming industry and the focused on yesterday's face to face. we were disappointed with how little this meeting has to do with keeping our children safe and how much it had to do with an agenda to attack the second amendment, biden trying to shut it down. >> i think we can do a great deal without in any way imposing on or i am pinging on the rights of the second amendment. >> what is the real strategy behind the invitation to the nra? a headline reports the administration is trying an end run around the gun
be relief in sight. >>> clashing over gun violence. vice president biden meets with the nra, doesn't go so well. what does it mean for efforts to prevent gun violence? the cost of flu outbreak from you calling in sick and maybe worse, from all of you who aren't. what it's costing us. >>> tornadoes touch down in louisiana, water levels keep rising and more rain on the way. >>> a packed show for you this morning. talk to cnn chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta, dr. anthony fauci, from the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases. former new mexico give nor bill richardson, illinois congresswoman january, and t-boz will be joining us. "starting point" begins right now. >>> welcome, everybody. our starting point is kind of gross. the flu. a nasty strain running rampant across the country. thousands hospitalized and dozens of people have died. in just a few hours, the cdc will release new numbers on how widespread the flu is. cnn's medical unit got an early look and one expert says we're at epidemic levels. dr. sanjay gupta is in atlanta. what are you expecting to hear? >>
't behind the violence. the nra step ahead way from discussions and said they were in attack of second amendment. dan lothian has been following developments for us this morning. sol folks said they see some consensus in some areas. when you listen to what the nra said, they sounded very disappointed with the meetings. >> that's right. we sort of expect thad coming in. it wasn't a very big, bold expectation from the nra, saying they were coming to simply listen to what the administration had to put out there. the vice president did talk about some things floating to the top. not recommendations that come from him, but recommendations he said coming from all the various groups he has been meeting with. at the top of the list is a total universal background check, including private sales of guns, second on that list, a ban on high-capacity ammunition clips and also talked about the need for the federal government to get more research. get their hands on more information that he believes will prevent more gun violence in the future. pushback from the nra saying that they were troubled by
term. but fewer than half of americans approve of what he's doing. here is the bottom line. is the nra winning the gun debate? >>> plus doctors racing to save the vision of a man attacked a acid. police investigating whether his work with the ballet is the reason for the horrific attack. [ male announcer ] don't just reject convention. drown it out. introducing the all-new 2013 lexus ls f sport. an entirely new pursuit. in the middle of the night it can be frustrating. it's hard to turn off and go back to sleep. intermezzo is the first and only prescription sleep aid approved for use as needed in the middle of the night when you can't get back to sleep. it's an effective sleep medicine you don't take before bedtime. take it in bed only when you need it and have at least four hours left for sleep. do not take intermezzo if you have had an allergic reaction to drugs containing zolpidem, such as ambien. allergic reactions such as shortness of breath or swelling of your tongue or throat may occur and may be fatal. intermezzo should not be taken if you have taken another sleep medicine at b
strategy behind the invitation to the nra? a headline reports the administration is trying an end run around the gun lobby. will the task force do little else than help the white house's end game and hurt the nra brand? >> if you're a survivalist and you believe the federal government is coming to kill you and your children, if that's your view, your paranoid sick twisted view, fine, good luck continuing to get the republicans to jump in your pickup truck and drive off the cliff towards political oblivion. >> it doesn't appear the movie and gaming industries are as well. we'll know more after today's meetings. joining me is attorney general bo biden. as we talk about what happened yesterday with the nra meeting with the vice president at the white house, the first time the nra is invited in two decades. does this legitimize the nra is being that powerful in washington, d.c.? >> i think what -- and i speak as attorney for the state of delaware not the administration, you see a task force led by the vice president, my father, to try to meet with all of the stake holders, whether they be
.r. offensive, so is the national rifle association. politico reporting today the nra is unleashing an army of lobbyists on washington and have you seen this? the nra hitting the president squarely with a new ad spotlighting his own daughters. >> are the president's kids more important than yours? then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools? when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school. >> putting out an ad talking about the president's daughters? >> they are out of step, out of the mainstream, totally out of sync with what's going on in our society and quite frankly, after seeing that, i think some of the people that run that thing are sick. >> joining me now, congressman james clyburn, who serves as assistant democratic leader. sir, good to have you here. first i just want to get your reaction. you have seen that nra ad. what's your reaction? >> first of all, thomas, thank you so much for having me. that is way over the top. i was just taken aback when i heard that this morning. i have no idea who is making the decisions regarding this group. they r
of his staff sent that fax on to the national rifle association. >> his office sent it to the nra? then less than a month after the oklahoma city bombing, on a day that had been proclaimed a national day of mourning for police killed in the line of duty, less than a month after the oklahoma city bombing, the nra took out a national newspaper ad defending a fund-raising letter that they had just sent which called federal law enforcement personnel jackbooted thugs. this is less than a month after the oklahoma city bombing. president george h.w. bush resigned his life membership in the nra in protest. ultimately, even after they first defended it, the nra was forced to apologize for the "jackbooted thugs" thing. and ultimately, old steve stockman did get voted out of office in texas in 1996. he'd only served one term in the house. but you know what happened to steve stockman in the long run? in this past election in 2012, the one we just had, steve stockman got voted back into office. texas decided to send him back. and then yeah, he was the guy who even before president obama said w
tomorrow. >> bret: the nra calls a meeting with the vice president less about keeping america's children safe and more about attacking the second amendment. the pushback is firm. even before task force releases the recommendations. this is "special report." ♪ ♪ >> bret: vice president heard from the other side today. yesterday he talked to sum porters of expanding it. today he heard from folks who see the right to own guns birthright. biden and the task force made up their minds on several points. carl call ron tells us of the ongoing culture class over guns. >> the second force of task force meeting aimed at new laws, regulation about executive orders to curb mass shootings, joe biden accelerated the timetable and told sportsman and pro-gun group including the nra common ground could be found. >> the president said, even if what we do only saves one life it make sense. we can do a great deal without imposing on or impinging on the rights that the second amendment guarantees. >> this comes a day after he said to work around congress the president could use executive ordinaries drawin
the nra head had changed his mind on closing gun show loopholes. >> should we have mandatory background checks at gun shows for sales of weapons? >> if you're a dealer, that's already a law. >> that's not my question, please, mr. lapierre, i'm not trying to play games here, but if you could, it would help, just answer my question. >> senator, i do not believe the way the law is working now, unfortunately, that it does any good to extend the law to private sales between hobbyists and collectors. >> so, you do not support mandatory background checks at all in instances at gun shows? >> we do not, because the fact is, the law right now is a failure the way it's working. >> howard wilson, 9 in 10 americans support background checks. what planet is wayne lapierre on? >> well, he's clearly representing the gun lobby and the leadership of the gun lobby, which is many respects out of sync and out of membership of the nra. the polling we've done and the mayor have done shows members of the nra, rank and file members, gun owners, parents, support many of the reasonable checks that people are talk
insight into that fascinating meeting today at the white house between vice president biden and the nra. what can the vice president, what can the white house reasonably expect to get out of the nra today? >> the nra is going to go in there with a conciliatory face. they're being smart. they're sending not their top lobbyist but an official who has worked with biden over the years, worked with him in the '90s in the senate, is actually friends with him from the delaware beach, jim baker, the nra's number two, but he's coming with a very hard message. the nra told me that in the past 18 days, their paid memberships have gone up 100,000. they've gone from 4.1 million to 4.2 million. and they tell me that before this debate is over, they want to get to 5 million. so the nra sees this fight as a growth opportunity. willie, it's $25 a year, you get a free camo duffel bag with that. and we're told that jim baker, the nra lobbyist, is going to tell vice president biden we're willing to discuss, talk to you about any possible constructive solution, but here's the kicker, we listen to people bey
. >>> also, the president of the nra is here in "the situation room." we're getting his reaction to the sweeping proposals against gun violence. and the presidential inauguration only five days away. we'll take you inside the law enforcement command center working to keep him safe. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> this is cnn breaking news. >> let's get to the breaking news. a deadly terrorist attack on a gas field in eastern algeria near the libyan border. some of the more than 40 hostages seized have been released but a number of them are still being held, including americans. the state department confirms those americans are affiliated with the oil giant bp. let's bring in elise labott. the latest information you're getting is what? >> well, at first these assailants, these affiliated-al qaeda militants tried to storm a bus, these bp employees headed for an air field in nearby eastern algeria, that was not successful. then they stormed the compound of this living -- the living quarters of this air field and they took about 40 hostages. we understand that a
. dan gross of the brady campaign is here with reaction to the president's comments that the nra is joining up fear to sell guns. >>> and former secretary of state colin powell calls out republicans on race. >> there is also a dark -- a dark vein of intolerance in some parts of the party. >> dr. james peterson janes me to discuss the republican response. >> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. president obama took on the single greatest threat to the global economy today, the republican party. the president used the final news conference of his first term to throw down the gauntlet. after years of deliberate confusion by republicans, president obama set the record straight on the debt ceiling. >> now, the other congressionally imposed deadline coming up is the so-called debt ceiling, something most americans hadn't even heard of before two years ago. so i want to be clear about this. the debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending. it simply allows the country to pay for spending t
of the grady campaign is here regarding comments that the nra is gearing up to sell guns. and former secretary of state colin powell calls out republicans on race. >> there is also a dark vein of intolerance. >> dr. peterson joins me to discuss the republican response. good to have you with us tonight, folks, thank you for joining us. president obama took on the single greatest threat to the economy today, the republican party. the president used the conference in his first term to throw down the gauntlet, and after confusion, president obama set the record straight on the debt ceiling. >> now the other imposition is called the debt ceiling. something most americans had not heard of before two years ago. so i want to be clear about this. the debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending. it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. >> and of course republicans tried to trick americans into believing the debt ceiling was a blank check or magic credit card for the president to go
used a semiautomatic assault weapon or large capacity ammunition magazines. >> the nra is of course fighting back, saying in a statement senator feinstein has been trying to ban guns from law abiding citizens for decades. they know gun bans don't work and we are confident congress will reject senator feinstein's wrong-headed approach. >> joining me, carolyn, who is pushing a similar bill in the house, and also philadelphia mayor michael nutter. welcome to you both. when i heard dianne feinstein today, very personal,vy emotional, reliving one of the horrific things she went through, as indeed you did. here's what i don't get. i don't get why within minutes, really, of this assault weapons ban being proposed, already we start to hear, it may be impossible to get it through the senate, through the house. and the main reason may be democrats. democrats who are too worried about their own spins and their own backyards and their own political careers to do what they probably believe would be the right thing for their country. what do you do to change their minds and therefore the chances
president said he saw emerging consensus in some areas here. the nra said they were disappointed what is really going on here? >> that's right. that's essentially what we expected, the nra saying they wanted to come and listen to what the administration is talking about, but certainly the administration is looking for some tough guidelines here, to prevent violence in the future. so, some of the things that the vice president says has been emerging from the discussion. he pointed out these are not his recommendations, but what he's hearing from all of these meetings is, at the top of the list, universal background checks. not closing loopholes at sales, but universal background checks, and a ban on high capacity ammunition clips. these are two things that the vice president says has been emerging at the top of the list from the discussions he has been holding. but the nra obviously pushing back on this. clearly disappointed. disappointed, they said, by how these meetings have less to do with protecting the children and more to do with "the agenda, the attack on the second amendment, w
at the beginning of the show is happening. and i think the nra has -- and i guess rachel maddow made this point the other night. the nra, it has been so long that they have had to argue this issue that they're kind of shocked at how much support, once this issue is framed the way it is now, which is let's take some reasonable steps to prevent something like newtown from happening again. a lot of people including gun owners are on that side. >> right, and i think the freakouts helped to make the point from the other side. when you see somebody speaking straight to camera saying if i don't get what i want i will start to kill people. your first reaction is whoa, i wouldn't want that person to have a gun. it is like they went so far to make a point that they made the other point. >> that is why i wanted to show people, when you have freakouts you usually look freaky in doing that. >> it is a good rule. >> they said in december that schools should deploy armed officers, listen to this, both of you. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. we need to have every sin
in the nbc news/"wall street journal" about the nra. 41% think of them positively, 34% negative. hollywood think 23% favorable, 46% negatively. we talked before about lance armstrong and pr. clearly the nra has got a pr challenge here. how do you think they've done so far since newtown in positioning themselves to be strong in this fight? >> why are you looking at me, mark? >> i'm just starting with you randomly. i went alphabetical. >> yeah, the nra has had good days and bad days in this. and actually, that depends how you look at it. even when the nra has a bad day and the media is calling them too aggressive, that's a good day for the nra. that usually ends up working in their favor in terms of membership. but, you know, i think the politics of maligning the nra is probably not a strategically good idea. that poll, for example, showing the favorability numbers, gun sales have skyrocketed, there's been an urgency to vilify the nra. for example, there's an ad out right now, one of a dozen, maligning a congressman named john barrow, a democrat in georgia. it's a democrat-on-democrat sort o
to try to prevent another massacre before the nra gets the floor. what we can expect in a live report this morning. >>> take me out to the hall of fame? today we'll learn the new baseball hall of fame class. should players tainted by the steroid era make it in? >>> the u.s. government spent more than $100 billion to save aig, poster child for the bad bailouts. why is the insurance giant saying it got a raw deal and considering suing the government. >>> and a great white shark threatening florida beaches. how scientists in utah sent a warning. >>> we'll speak with ron johnson, jen psaki, dan shaughnes shaughnessy, and jenn sterger. actress and model who had her own moment with brent musburger. and model cameron russell, who will tell us why she doesn't think girls should be models. "starting point" begins right now. >>> welcome, everybody. starting point this morning, the nra and the white house, 24 hours from a face-to-face gun control conversation. national rifle association confirming it will meet with vice president biden's gun violence panel tomorrow. they don't sown so thrilled a
". the nra met it's worst nightmare today and his name is joe biden. >> the nra is a friend of freedom. >> i want to thank the national rifle association. >> they do a terrific job. >> we have the craziest people. >> too much weaponry in all the wrong hands. >> but there are also thing that is we know. >> he has a lot of friends on the hill. >> the vice president's task force powwow. >> there is no room. >> not to give an inch of ground. >> there is no room for compromise. >> we have another school shooting in taft, california at the same moment the nra is at the white house. >> they want chain jooth it is simple. >> more guns are not the answer. >> no one hunts with an assault rifle. >> the newtown tragedy, tucson and the movie theater massacres. >> is part of what sets america apart from the rest of the world. >> he called for armed guards ip scho in schools. >> call me crazy, you sir, are [ bleep ] in the head. >> as vice president joe biden was conducting a meeting at the white house today, a 16-year-old student was shot today when a student walked into the school and started firing. the
school shootings, the nra has released a video. the same group that blamed the violent video games for the massacre in newtown. >>> and scott brown's political future, more observers saying he won't run for senate. and as i said, corey booker, who has announced his intention to run for senator in new jersey. the problem is he may have to run against fellow democrat and current senator franken lautenberg, as far as we can tell, they agree on just about everything. corey booker will answer steve kornacki's questions and will get tonight's last word. ♪ ♪ ♪ hi dad. many years from now, when the subaru is theirs... hey. you missed a spot. ...i'll look back on this day and laugh. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. . >>> so newark mayor cory booker has a problem, he wants to run for senate. the problem is there is currently an incumbent democratic senator in the seat he wants to run for. he wants to respect that senator, he hopes that that senator, who happens to be 88 years old, will announce his retirement. that has not happened yet. so how does cory booker run and not run
tread very lightly. they'd better be very careful. they have wandered in and followed the nra whose made some horrible pr mistakes over the past month. republicans better be careful and think twice before they make their next move. >> right. >> remember, one of the reasons the numbers are so high on background checks is because most people believe that those background checks already happened. >> right. >> they don't think that's a change in the law. >> right. >> so you're on really weak ground when people haven't got a clue and they actually support something they think is law. so the education part of it is one aspect of it. but you've also got the sheer power, the emotion of the 9/11 families style approach where you've got the sandy hook families coming in, it's very hard to oppose -- it's not about the president. you've got -- it's not even about bloomberg's money that's going to go into the advertising. the emotional force of the sandy hook families is just like it was with the 9/11 families. and republicans have got to face up to that. frankly, democrats have to face up and grow a
back to me. >> and john walsh of america's most wanted said nra has held congress hostage for years. plus congressman and nra point person who says this. >> there's nothing more critical to our nation's wellbeing than our children's safety. >> why he thinks the the way to stop shootings is to put armed guns outside every school in america. >> and why is rob lowe taking an assault against assault weapons? >> i like guns and i don't know what to do with an assault weapon. i don't know why i would want one. >> this is "piers morgan tonight." >> good evening. you're looking live at the white house where in a matter of hours, vice president joe biden is expected to hand president obama his recommendations to stop gun violence in america. the parents who lost children one month ago in newtown are speaking out. >> we want to bring about changes that will stop a tragedy such as this from happening to any community ever again. because this can happen in any community. your community. it has already happened in tucson, littletown, aurora and blacksburg. it has happened in our schools, theater
. they are the ones that are scaring american gun owners. it isn't the nra. >> tomorrow marks one month since the massacre in newtown, connecticut, and residents are meeting there this afternoon to discuss what to do with the sandy hook elementary school which now stands vacant. susan candiotti is in newtown is there any consensus among the people there, those who have been speaking, about what to do? >> reporter: marty, everyone has a different idea and we have been hearing lot of them during the course of this meeting, which is still going on. it's a public forum. one of the ideas even included creating a planetarium there so that people could go there and look at the stars. what was most powerful about this was the number of parents, victims and survivors, speaking before this crowd, some of them, at times, breaking down into tears. for example, one mother who said, "the children are so scared there, they shouldn't go back they should tear down the school, blood memorial there." another mother who had a different opinion who said that we must teach our children to be strong, that the child
. but before his meeting with the n.r.a. this afternoon, biden gave us a glimse into what some of those suggestions might be. watch this. >> there's an emerging set of recommendations, not coming from me, but coming from the groups we've met with and i'm focus on the ones that relate primarily to gun ownership, the type of weapons that they own. and one is, there's a surprising, so far, a surprising recurrence of suggestions that we have universal background checks. i've never quite heard as much talk about the need to do something about high capacity magazines, as i've heard spontaneously from every group that we've met with so far. and the last area, which is an area at that is-- the whole question of the ability of any federal agency to do any research on the issue of gun violence. >> sean: now, keep in mind, uncle joe made those comments before he met with members of gun rights groups and from the sound of it the meeting was very unproductive. the n.r.a. puts out a statement. we were disappointed how little this meeting had to do with keeping our children safe and how much it had to
. >> all right. we have heard a lot about the political strength of the nra. there was a lot of discussion about whether the president would follow up the speech, the moving speech at the memorial with some kind of executive and legislative component and so i guess my first question to you is how -- what were you anticipating you would see from the president? was this more or less than you thought you would get out of him? >> well, i was glad to see the executive orders. we needed to do something and congress hasn't been exactly the best at acting in the last session, so i'm hopeful we can deal with bigger, broader issues when we actually get to some legislation but i'm glad the president took the initiative and really took the lead. >> that leadership effort is critical. if we can continue that kind of relationship you get the president, the executive branch saying this has got to occur, this is what needs to occur, lay out a format giving congress then a renewed opportunity to pass reform legislation that is going to make a difference in the lives of all of our constituents. >> i felt ve
the vice president and represents the nra rather than wayne lapierre who i think cost the nra a huge, huge percentage of people who support the nra, obviously. but universal background checks gets the door open, and maybe then you can get high-capacity magazines. >> 75% want that also. so i keep missing the political minefield of why a republican can't move on guns. i'm not seeing it. i look at the numbers. >> look at the 100,000 new members of the nra, literally, now, of all times? it's a pretty deep division, andrea mitchell. >> and i have seen no sign, even though they very smartly did keep wayne lapierre out of the white house meeting, i don't see any sign that the nra is ready to give on the background checks, even, which they ought to. but they have not conceded anything. they feel really empowered, as mika just pointed out, the rise in members, they say rise in money, but it isn't their grass-roots membership that really matters, it's the clout they have in washington. they feel really empowered by this, and guns are leaping off the shelves even as the vice president was sitting dow
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